Aug 3, 2020 #6 50/50 either way. The entire shtick is she is a Night Sister who uses the dark side for magic and sorcery, not because she never had Force abilities to begin with. If you really want to use Maul you may be able to pull it off with 2 healers but most players will gun him down quickly making it a 4 vs 5 in the first turn. it was designed for that type of fight. Round 1) Dooku. Dooku knows nothing of Sith or dark side sorcery on his own and Maul not yet learning Force Lightning is irrelevant because in neither continuity is it indicated Sidious delibarately withheld from teaching Force Lightning to him. Darth Sidious Vs Darth Vader,Darth Maul,and Count Dooku. Sidious never taught Dooku any Sith magic. I would have to check the Plagueis novel which right now I don't have with me. So Maul having higher potencial then her doesn't mean much, since her power level is more circumstancial. No, because he did took active role in the ritual, so he had to have some knowledge about sith magic. During the early stages of the creation of Attack of the Clones, Asajj Ventress was created by the art department and considered for the role of the film's Sith antagonist.As Star Wars fans know, this role ended up being filled by Count Dooku. They were both performing it. Kenobi VS Maul can go both ways, Maul usually took the advantage in their Clone War duels. It is relevant in regards [to their teachings. RELATED: 5 Reasons Emperor Palpatine Is THE Villain Of Star Wars (And 5 That It’s Darth Vader) Both Maul and Tyranus are formidable Sith, with many accomplishments and fallen foes to their names. How is the lightning not relevant? It's just a reference book with a bunch of random stuff in it. Re: Darth Vader(ROTJ) vs Count Dooku(ROTS) vs Maul(SoD) on Wed 16 Dec 2020 - 12:14 @Meatpants wrote: Because Lucas says that he improved the choreography in each of the OT movies to show that Luke and Vader are getting better, then segues into how Maul and co. are faster and more skilled. It just proves that Tyranus' dark side knowledge was more developed then Mauls. For Sidious to pass up Talzin in favor of Maul, seems to suggest that Maul did have great potential. Darth Maul vs Count Dookuis an upcoming DBX by PillsburyZomboi. In the movies Dooku and Maul are going to win. That being said Maul is a very..very awesome DPS but as you know very fragile. That has nothing to do with Talzin naturally stalemating Windu on her lonesome in her own body with little effort. I'm not even sure if it's suposed to be taken as canon to begin with. In The Phantom Menace, Darth Maul was technically the main antagonist. The Star Wars prequel trilogy introduced us to two of Emperor Palpatine’s Sith apprentices before he went onto recruit Anakin Skywalker and turn him into the legendary Darth Vader. Dooku's fighting style is based on technical skill and remaining emotionless. Who do you think would win? Yes Anakin could best Dooku in a duel. Yeah I was worried that Filloni's influence would of had Ashoka take over too much as it seems he wants her to be the new SW main character but if her role was small and not overwhelming and they gave some much needed respect back to Luke than I hope this either retcons the Sequels or at least means they will focus on an alternate timeline that takes more from the Old EU instead. 3. Nah. I was already pleasantly surprised they brought back Boba and even had Temura Morrison play him so I am hoping they just ditch the sequels and give us real long time SW fans some needed quality and not that pathetic cheap ass attempt involved with the Sequels. deltaniner Primera Espada. Count Dooku can’t quite compete with the fierceness of Maul’s double-ended lightsaber. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Darth Maul and Count Dooku were both talented Sith Lords in their own right. Yoda fights off Dark Side temptations, Anakin kills Dooku, and Palpatine and Yoda have a great battle, with Anakin also getting in some great swipes at Sidious. Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by Shiro, Jul 23, 2004. Quote: Read the opening post and don't act like an idiot. Welcome to the forums! Force Lightning is the trademark ability of sufficiently powerful Dark Side users, for it's raw, untamed power is a… Your claiming that because Maul casually held off Grievous then TK'd him out of the tower's window so he eventually came back when Talzin intentionally sacrificed herself for Maul to escape proves that Grievous is a match for Maul as a duelist? Since, unless canon changes, the idea that Lucas put forward was that Dooku was kind of a fallback plan because Sidious didn't have time to raise another apprentice from childhood. This is also factually untrue. No matter how cool Maul looked, it’s hard to compete with Dooku. Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Delta_36, Jul 4, 2005. Let's settle the Maul vs Count Dooku debate( temporarily, since nothing stays settled though) All out, combatants in character but battling seriously, battle takes place on the fields of Dantooine Cite the candidate that wins: 1. The fight between Yoda and Dooku showed Dooku to be an impressive fighter capable of actions beyond his years, but it was hard to compete with the Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gonn fight from the end of The Phantom Menace.To end a poor film with one of the best fighters in Star Wars history cemented Maul’s legacy.. 5 COUNT DOOKU WAS THE BEST: He Lived Longer Maul could give Dooku the fight off his life, but he still won't beat Kenobi. Honestly going by Lucas's statements Dooku VS Vader AND Maul might be more a fair fight. This is … Darth Maul would win because he focuses on rage and anger which Dooku doesn't defend well against. NEXT: Star Wars: 5 Times We Felt Bad For Hux (& 5 Times We Hated Him), All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Dooku's powers are expanded upon, as he wins or stalemates numerous fights, even against multiple opponents. Re: Darth Vader(ROTJ) vs Count Dooku(ROTS) vs Maul(SoD) on November 17th 2020, 3:56 pm "vader's military power made sedriss and kar vastor shit their pants more than they even shat their pants" - phantom menace. Darth Maul’s return was a surprise, which turned into a dramatic and important storyline that would continue in Solo and Star Wars: Rebels. I'll also happily repeat that the one time Dooku was immediately challenged by Windu, who unlike Maul, took him on head to head...Dooku ran away after blind siding Windu by knocking some battle-droids into him as he went into a pit and fucked off the planet immediately. I don't see how he could win. If Count Dooku and Darth Maul fought a lightsaber duel between eachother, who would come out on top? Don't honestly care if you don't take my word for it or not. Sidious wen't far enough to teach Dooku things like Force Lightning and Sith Magic. Can Darth Sidious defeat all of his former apprenticesif they decided to team up? Technical skill 4. I don't think Vader is literally sub TPM Kenobi but I'd say he's definitely weaker than Dooku. Because Lucas canon shows that he does, so what is this strawman even about? You are born with a power level that has an absolute and unchanging value. However, there's an exception in one of the saga's more interesting antagonists with Count Dooku. Despite this, he wasn’t on our screens very often and only spoke 31 words in the entire film. We’ve compared them below. There is no major power gap between them. Alexrd and Defensor are right- Maul needed to die in TPM in order for Dooku to come in, for a number of reasons, them being: 1. In 2 vs 1 and after geting purposely tounted into the dark side with Dooku not even trying to kill him. This allows us to build up much more of a connection to Dooku in the film series. Maul is an aggressive, acrobatic warrior who charges his enemies, Dooku is much more laid-back and suave. Maul is really underrated. Windy VS Dooku I think Windu wins semi-comfortably. But Maul was raised in first line to become an assassin, while Dooku was a wanderer between the two worlds giving him much more facets to glow everywhere he appeared. If you're talking about old EU Darth Plagueis novel then it actually makes things worse for Maul. Even the writer of the Son of Dathomir comic book thinks that Darth Maul would beat Count Dooku in a duel more often than not. This is tricky because we never actually see Maul in his ‘prime’. After Maul's seeming demise and twelve year absence came fallen Jedi and Count of Serenno, Dooku, who adopted the name Darth Tyranus. Maul focuses on rage and anger, something Dooku doesn't defend well against. A one-stop shop for all things video games. he mastered what might be the second hardest lightsaber style there is. While fans who are only … Battle. Today in Fantasy Fight, two Sith Lords from Star Wars duel each other to find out who the true master of the dark side is. And also beyond that, Sidious did highly value Maul while Dooku was always ever seen as a stop-gap temporary expendable apprentice until he got Anakin; where as he rationalized losing Maul was a huge blow which directly contradicts your claim Maul was only ever seen as a "weapon". Makashi's shallow slices aren't going to affect him either due to his durability. Darth Maul was a horned, tattooed Dathomirian Zabrak whose double-ended lightsaber didn’t help much when he was killed off at the end of The Phantom Menace. So that clearly didn't end the fight. I'm not seeing how my point was refuted here. They are undoubtedly close. Dude, she literally says it in the episode with Mace and Jar Jar. Are you one of those crazies who think some dark sider is always getting a magic force boost from a planet at all times too? Rechecked, there's the old conversation where Sidious talks to Vader about Maul and how he had a Force-Bond of sorts with Maul; so when the events of the duel's outcome on Naboo went down, he felt a tremendous blow to himself and the dark side when Maul was seemingly "killed". In fact, his control over the force allowed him to survive his bisection for twelve years before being rescued by his brother and returning to power, complete with robot legs. In fact, the latter’s death was one of the major catalysts that lead Dooku to be completely ensnared by Darth Sidious. Battle. But potential seems to only go so far. And few seconds later he comes back to kill Talzin. The nightsisters magick comes from taping into the spirit ichor (the green substance) that runs within Dathomir (stated in the Star Wars encyclopedia). RELATED: The Mandalorian: 10 Best Mandalorian And Baby Yoda Moments. In the trailer, Lucasfilm decided to show fans Maul’s double-ended lightsaber and ruin the goosebump-inducing reveal in the film, which was odd. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Shiro Jedi Youngling. It pits both Darth Maul and Count Dooku from Star Wars. Darth Sidious Vs Darth Vader,Darth Maul,and Count Dooku. Re: Darth Vader(ROTJ) vs Count Dooku(ROTS) vs Maul(SoD) on Wed 16 Dec 2020 - 12:14 @Meatpants wrote: Because Lucas says that he improved the choreography in each of the OT movies to show that Luke and Vader are getting better, then segues into how Maul and co. are faster and more skilled. Although I think Maul is much cooler and his style is much flashier and cooler to watch than Dooku. If this was 1 vs 1 then likely the fight against Maul would also continue. In the Clone Wars, when Dooku was fighting Savage Opress (who uses a double-bladed lightsaber like Maul, I might add) he was owning Savage in with the Force but whenever it came down to lightsaber combat Savage would constantly knock him down easily. Ever. DARTH MAUL WAS THE BEST: He Evaded Death In The Clone Wars. All out - Dooku 7-8/10. Once one of the most respected members of the Jedi Order, the death of his former Padawan, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, as well as the corruption he saw in the Republic left him disil… Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Yes, I was talking about disney canon, I thought this is obvious after the discussion of the first page. >dat Force crush on the last Dark Trooper. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Aug 3, 2020 #5 Does Maul get the high ground? He used him only once in a Sith sorcery technique because of his bond with Yoda as the latter's former apprentice to try and break Yoda's spirit. So for now let's say I'll come back to it later. Dooku vs. Maul Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. This allowed the subtle coolness of the curved hilt on his lightsaber to compliment him as a person just as much as Maul’s double-ended weapon did. Darth Maul wanted to kill Anakin before everyone else did. You are forgeting important details like Talzin being naturally stronger on Dathomir and her draining power from Dooku before the fight. Where is the evidence Talzin is not a natural Force-User? Count Dooku for me is just the smarter, more elegant and in any field more sophisticated guy. Posted by 1 month ago. When The Phantom Menace was announced, fans were understandably thrilled by the prospect of new Star Wars films. 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